Post by maklarr6000 on Nov 26, 2013 6:20:05 GMT
So, I finally saw the 50th anniversary special, and it's one of those things you just want to sit down and discuss. A ridiculous amount of ground was covered in the special, and I'd be very interested to discuss any part of it.
Also, there are spoilers. There will be no further warnings.
So, we have a "new" doctor (John Hurt) as the young-er Doctor from when he blew up Gallifrey. However, 10 and 11 (David Tennant and Matt Smith) go back in time and convince... himself not to do it. In short, doesn't that sort of countermand the entire show's driving point? That the "Doctor" is a haunted refugee plagued by guilt and remorse for failing to save, and rather destroying his own home that he saves the Earth and all sorts of other planets time and time again. Sort of a never ending quest to atone for what he had done, all the while running from what he had done. If he didn't blow up Gallifrey, then the whole mission of the Doctor seems more... misguided now than heroically tragic. An odd change of direction for the show in my opinion, but I'll defer to Moffat on this one. I suppose if the Doctor "doesn't remember" the events that transpired, then he would still have the drive to become "The Doctor" in the show, but... seeing as he has a time traveling space ship, why wouldn't he ever find out that he didn't blow up the planet? Now, I'm no expert on the TARDIS or any of the rules therein, but wouldn't the Doctor have been able to travel back to Gallifrey to see what was going on in that moment? Never once was he curious enough to go back and see what actually happened? If not him, then wouldn't any of the Millions of Daleks orbiting the planet have recalled, and... said something about it? Written it down? You can't tell me EVERY Dalek in orbit was destroyed in the event, or "destroyed each other in the crossfire" as the episode put it, and I'd think they'd note something like "Our mortal enemy's 13 different lives coming together, and making his homeworld disappear." Considering all the other inane things they pick up on throughout the show.
I have a ton of questions and nitpicks with this whole episode- I suppose it is just a show and I'm taking this too seriously, but I'm one of these nerds that just loves to tear into this sort of thing. Any other WHOvians here who want to discuss this one?
Also, there are spoilers. There will be no further warnings.
So, we have a "new" doctor (John Hurt) as the young-er Doctor from when he blew up Gallifrey. However, 10 and 11 (David Tennant and Matt Smith) go back in time and convince... himself not to do it. In short, doesn't that sort of countermand the entire show's driving point? That the "Doctor" is a haunted refugee plagued by guilt and remorse for failing to save, and rather destroying his own home that he saves the Earth and all sorts of other planets time and time again. Sort of a never ending quest to atone for what he had done, all the while running from what he had done. If he didn't blow up Gallifrey, then the whole mission of the Doctor seems more... misguided now than heroically tragic. An odd change of direction for the show in my opinion, but I'll defer to Moffat on this one. I suppose if the Doctor "doesn't remember" the events that transpired, then he would still have the drive to become "The Doctor" in the show, but... seeing as he has a time traveling space ship, why wouldn't he ever find out that he didn't blow up the planet? Now, I'm no expert on the TARDIS or any of the rules therein, but wouldn't the Doctor have been able to travel back to Gallifrey to see what was going on in that moment? Never once was he curious enough to go back and see what actually happened? If not him, then wouldn't any of the Millions of Daleks orbiting the planet have recalled, and... said something about it? Written it down? You can't tell me EVERY Dalek in orbit was destroyed in the event, or "destroyed each other in the crossfire" as the episode put it, and I'd think they'd note something like "Our mortal enemy's 13 different lives coming together, and making his homeworld disappear." Considering all the other inane things they pick up on throughout the show.
I have a ton of questions and nitpicks with this whole episode- I suppose it is just a show and I'm taking this too seriously, but I'm one of these nerds that just loves to tear into this sort of thing. Any other WHOvians here who want to discuss this one?
